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	<title>Comments on: Sorry Scoble: You don&#8217;t own your friends</title>
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		<title>By: Keith McArthur</title>
		<link>http://veritascanada.com/testblog/2008/01/sorry-scoble-you-dont-own-your-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith McArthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Josh,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This story is getting increasingly interesting now that Facebook and Google have joined dataportability.org. I don&#039;t have a problem with people being able to take away content that they have have contributed, but I do have concerns about other friends being able to export my private data and use it for however they wish. Let&#039;s see how this evolves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Josh,</p>
<p>This story is getting increasingly interesting now that Facebook and Google have joined dataportability.org. I don&#8217;t have a problem with people being able to take away content that they have have contributed, but I do have concerns about other friends being able to export my private data and use it for however they wish. Let&#8217;s see how this evolves.</p>
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		<title>By: joshturner</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshturner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Keith...and Robert if you&#039;re reading on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A very interesting and contentious issue.  It interests me how fast Facebook took off and how concerns and questions about the service are now growing equally fast.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I see both Keith and Robert&#039;s point of view and I&#039;m not really sure where I stand on this quite yet.  One thought that comes to mind is to compare this issue to copyright.  When you have an idea for something (e.g. a idea for a movie) that idea is not protected by copyright.  What is protected by copyright is the &lt;i&gt;expression&lt;/i&gt; of that idea (to follow the example, a written outline of a screenplay).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps a piece of personal information, like an email address, can be passed freely back and forth through different networks (not protected) but &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; this information is organized and housed &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; protected.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What gives Facebook its value is how it organizes information and then makes it easy to share with others.  That&#039;s the part that Facebook has a right to protect.  That said, I think people have the right to own and share his or her personal information.  If I have someone&#039;s email address, I should be able to share that freely regardless of how I obtained it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After writing this far, I think I&#039;m siding more with Scoble but I think Facebook has some kind of right to protect its business too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Keith&#8230;and Robert if you&#8217;re reading on.</p>
<p>A very interesting and contentious issue.  It interests me how fast Facebook took off and how concerns and questions about the service are now growing equally fast.</p>
<p>I see both Keith and Robert&#8217;s point of view and I&#8217;m not really sure where I stand on this quite yet.  One thought that comes to mind is to compare this issue to copyright.  When you have an idea for something (e.g. a idea for a movie) that idea is not protected by copyright.  What is protected by copyright is the <i>expression</i> of that idea (to follow the example, a written outline of a screenplay).</p>
<p>Perhaps a piece of personal information, like an email address, can be passed freely back and forth through different networks (not protected) but <i>how</i> this information is organized and housed <i>is</i> protected.</p>
<p>What gives Facebook its value is how it organizes information and then makes it easy to share with others.  That&#8217;s the part that Facebook has a right to protect.  That said, I think people have the right to own and share his or her personal information.  If I have someone&#8217;s email address, I should be able to share that freely regardless of how I obtained it.</p>
<p>After writing this far, I think I&#8217;m siding more with Scoble but I think Facebook has some kind of right to protect its business too.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith McArthur</title>
		<link>http://veritascanada.com/testblog/2008/01/sorry-scoble-you-dont-own-your-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith McArthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. But I think it comes down to where you draw the line. I think you and I would both agree that writing down friends&#039; e-mail contacts from Facebook would be okay. And I think we would both agree that using bots to scrape all our friends&#039; pictures off Facebook would be wrong. We just draw the line at a different place in the grey zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. But I think it comes down to where you draw the line. I think you and I would both agree that writing down friends&#8217; e-mail contacts from Facebook would be okay. And I think we would both agree that using bots to scrape all our friends&#8217; pictures off Facebook would be wrong. We just draw the line at a different place in the grey zone.</p>
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		<title>By: Scobleizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scobleizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anything I should be able to take out of social networking sites? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s look at the Yellow Pages. You&#039;re saying I shouldn&#039;t be able to photo copy the pages that my friends are on? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OK, how about write down their names?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, with regard to Facebook, are we saying we&#039;re not able to compare whether your name is on Twitter, or Facebook, or Yelp, or other social networks?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That we&#039;re not able to gather stuff like names, phone numbers, or email addresses for our other address books? Really? I can do that manually. Why not automate it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, Facebook&#039;s competitors DO let me copy my social graph stuff and put it INTO Facebook. Interesting that Facebook doesn&#039;t like it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything I should be able to take out of social networking sites? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the Yellow Pages. You&#8217;re saying I shouldn&#8217;t be able to photo copy the pages that my friends are on? </p>
<p>OK, how about write down their names?</p>
<p>So, with regard to Facebook, are we saying we&#8217;re not able to compare whether your name is on Twitter, or Facebook, or Yelp, or other social networks?</p>
<p>That we&#8217;re not able to gather stuff like names, phone numbers, or email addresses for our other address books? Really? I can do that manually. Why not automate it?</p>
<p>By the way, Facebook&#8217;s competitors DO let me copy my social graph stuff and put it INTO Facebook. Interesting that Facebook doesn&#8217;t like it both ways.</p>
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